MAKAVELI cheating

[adminless]

submitted this night. lg clearly locking on enemy and instantly (keep in mind that's slowed by a factor of ten) jumping from target to target. if that's not clear enough, even locking behind walls and to other subjects like team mates and frozen bodies (i.e. to any bounding box around). I can assure the player in the demo is the well known MAKAVELI and not some imposer/faker. ban just added now.

[nickaero]

Are you sure this is Maka? Same IP?

[adminless]

yes same connection, same settings, same model and same everything he has always used, even same usual '<--- unfreeze here plz' team chats and conversations. I just double checked it now, just ask him I doubt he will deny it.

[Gladiat0r]

did he cheat at the clan wars ?

[adminless]

I don't know but I don't think that it even matters, he just played two games against ass and he didn't do that good so I don't think it had any impact in the season.

[Makaveli]

Hi all,
Hi adminless,

Im very sad to read this thread after all the years on this server based on one demo.
Yes the player on the DEMO is myself not somebody else, I have played yesterday this map and some others.
However the claim that I´m cheating is crazy!

It is very said that I have to defend myself, while the community knows me for such a long time.

I can just say that I have never cheated. I have on my PC over 1000 full demos which can be analyzed. Im ready to upload all of them on a server. Please show me on these that I was cheating!

On ranked I have probably the lowest aim of all top-team players, because as always said I have huge problems with my LTE connection on ranked.
Whoever says that I have cheated shall tell me which cheat allows an average aim accuracy of 14.6% in 60 games!!! That would be a very bad cheat.
While other players achieve an accuracy of 40 or sometimes more than 50! All the videos are online of the tournament matches. Please analyze my kills.

@adminless you know about my LTE connection issue and you tried to help me with some settings and some ports to check if one is working better than the other one.

I have detected that in the late hours (after 23.30 german time) when less players are on the server my connection works much better/ smoother. Hits are more direct/ instant (dont have the feeling of a delay as on ranked!) Maybe it is also related to the LTE network capacity when people are going to sleep, so the accuracy increases!

In this demos/ video you can see that I was playing mainly with rockets. How can I cheat with rockets?
Sometimes I´m achieving an accuracy of 35-40% with rockets only. I´m always in the top 10-15 rocket players. However yesterday I have also used LG and rail more than usual as the connection was very smooth. I had a good run and many players were easy to predict.

Where in the demo my LG is jumping from target to target? Dont get for what Im accused here?

Examples based on the shown video above:

At 1:47 the enemy is trying to unfreeze in front of the column. I was pushing him with the LG against the column. Even here you can see that my aim goes off and then Im correcting back to the player. Is this really a locking???

At 4:59 Im using LG at the yellow armor/ old mega hall. My aim goes off the player and then Im correcting. It is never locked to the enemy as claimed. It also does not jump from target to target. I tried to aim and while moving back it also catched the enemies directly beside. So what is the issue here? I really dont get it.

At 4:10 to 4:30
Many of my rockets are not hitting, which kind of cheat is this?

You already made your conclusion based on this vague claims. I can just tell accusing me based on one demo and the shown video above is not fair adminless.

I don´t know what happens technically, but sometimes my connection freezes and I´m getting a very high ping. Sometimes I´m doing LG hits where I never would thought that it would be a hit. What I want to say is that my LTE connection is "fluctuating" which may cause inconsistencies.

You can ban me if you want based on this demo, but in order to be fair to a player that was always fair to the community I would recommend to take more demos of me. Analyze them and then come to a conclusion.

Let me tell you something, yesterday there were several players on the server that have chatted "Nazi slogans". I have tried to stop them by saying that they should stop this shit and that I would report them if not. Maybe this is their try to get me out.

Even a well known player did this, but I´m not a pussy to claim him as I couldnt know if he was joking around or was serious.
And this player probably reported me as cheater.

I´m fine with any decision, but hoping for fairness. Maybe the community can also comment on the above scenes.

regards,
Makaveli



Leaving it up to you and the community.

[PacMan]

I no expert , but what's with the following targets behind walls ,

Makaass? Explain, you tried walk hack and forgot to switch it off?

[PUFF]

I no expert , but what's with the following targets behind walls ,

Makaass? Explain, you tried walk hack and forgot to switch it off?

the only obvious thing here is that adminless uses wh
ban just added

[^Walnut*]

I know I have much less experience than you adminless and probably most others when it comes to cheating and stuff (I don't play the game that long), but I looked at the video and tbh I waited the whole time 'where are the cheats, where are the cheats'. I can't see any cheats being used here, it's like a normal video of a well known community player! And yea at the beginning he missed some rockets, so if he knew where enemies are, then he should hit them right, which is not the case here. Maybe the LG locking part is a bit weird, but I'm still not convinced that maka is cheating. Out of the blue he gets reported, which I think is really weird, but ok. I will leave you (adminless) and other more experienced players with this to decide and correct me if I'm wrong, but I just don't think this guy cheats! I think it's also not in his nature for him to cheat

[^Walnut*]

I no expert , but what's with the following targets behind walls ,

Makaass? Explain, you tried walk hack and forgot to switch it off?

But this doesn't make sense, why would you use wall hacks, but not hit first for example with the rockets. It just doesn't add-up to me!

[adminless]

@maka the lg locks, that's quite clear to see, and it's even more clear to see locally in a standard installation (instead of the modified one posted) that it always pin to a bounding box edge. that's the reason why it stays at the frozen body (as the bounding box edges overlap in the view) and team mates, it's locking to standard q3 bounding boxes edges. yeah you're making corrections but, literally, in the order of tenths of a second (the demo is slowed by a factor of ten) and perfectly from bounding box edge into bounding box edge. and as said, if that's not even clear enough at 4:47-4:52 your lg perfectly jumps to a team mate bounding box edge as it comes out from the tunnel in a tenth of a second and then again perfectly to a enemy that's even behind a wall in a another tenth of a second. I repeat, keep in mind one second of video there equals to a tenth of a second real time, it literally had to be slowed that much to be able to tell. I agree that at 5:00 your lg goes off but that can simply be a glitch (network), that you turned off the cheat at that point or simply that some other bounding box crossed your aim at that point in your local settings that locked it there (it appears some team mates run around you, more lg stuff going on etc). in any case I don't think that takes anything away from the rest and also to be fair it goes off once again to just instantaneously lock again in the same bounding box edge even behind the wall as you go backwards. the cheat obviously doesn't have anything to do with the rockets. look the game submitted is this one here feel free to send me that demo if you want and I'll post the full game here rendered in real time and we'll see. in the mean time unless you get strong support from the community or something, you're banned, as it seems clear to me. keep in mind that whoever goes out of his way to submit stuff like this did so at the server without any of these tools and in real time so I'm confident it was probably a lot more clear and there was a lot more to it.

@walnut "Maybe the LG locking part is a bit weird" that's all that needed to be said, as I just wrote, I think it's evident the guy is not going to show up with a full bot mode on.

[Makaveli]

Hi adminless,
Hi all,

I´m already now tired of defending myself. But as I like very much this game, the community and my team, I will give it a last try!
I will add comments into the video that you have uploaded and will re-upload on youtube, so that everyone can understand my view and my detailed explanations below. I would love to share a full demo, but I have stopped autorecording some weeks ago as my harddrive went full and I´m not using these demos for any purpose.

My proposal is:
Please could you start a poll where the community members can decide if I have cheated. As long as the poll goes keep me banned!
If the commnunity says that I have cheated, I will stop playing this game forever.
By the way, Im fully ignoring the troll PacMan with his Wallhack accusations as this is very obviously not the case.

I will try to get into your following points:

1) LG clearly locking on enemy

Please watch in detail the situation at 1:45. The crossfade does not jump anywhere. It fluently goes from below (as a rocket player I tend to aim at the lower section of the body) to the upper section of the body and then correcting to the left. The LG hit stops while my aim gets off. It also stops when he is behind the frozen body. When he cames out again Im correcting it and can finish the frag
I have commented this also in the video.


Also at 4:45 at yellow armor the LG does not hit constantly. Im loosing aim to the left. Then Im correcting and walking back.
How fast must I be to shut off the aimbot not to hit...and then restart aimbot to get some hits, while the crosshair is moving fluently. Do you really believe that I can do that within these milliseconds?

2) Jumping from target to target
At 4:45 you can see that there are multiple enemies. I did gave some damage with the rocket before and thought that I can finish with the LG. After switching to LG I tried to peak from the edge. The first player that came out behind the corner was my own team mate (greetings here to the troll PacMan!). When I recognized this, I have shafted more to the right. I have shafted along the edge not to get any rocket hits. You can see that I also hit the wall/ corner, while the enemy is visible! Then the enemy runs into my LG. You can see that there are multiple enemies, but my LG is focused on one enemy! IT IS NOT jumping from target to target!!!

Please consider the distances!!! These are very tiny movements (I´m a high sense player while using a high dpi).

Then I´m walking back, I may have hit another enemy very shortly but this never explains "jumping from target to target".

Keep in mind that I have killed only 3 players with LG during all the game and have to defend myself for one kill at 01:47 and some hits at 4:45.

3) Aim stays at frozen bodies, team mates or other subjects
At 1:47 the enemy is staying beside the frozen body to unfreeze, which I have recognized very late. When I start to hit him he moves behind the frozen body. For sure I have to aim towards the body, where else shall I aim? If you listen carefully, my LG hit stops while he moves behind the body. He cames out but my aim is still towards the body. Then Im correcting the aim to the left. If it would be an aimbot I guess it would fluently follow the enemy.

Please show me a scene where my aim stays at my team mates? Why should an aimbot shoot at my team mates?
If you mean the scene at 4:45...I have explained at 2) in detail how my approach was to kill the enemy...shaft along the edge of the corner not to get any rocket hit.

In all other scenes of this video where you can see the bounding box/ hitbox my aim never jumps around or stays focussed on my teammates, enemies or anything else and Im switching weapons in between!

regards,
Maka

[Makaveli]

here is the link to the video with my comments:

[adminless]

I think it would be a better idea to just post the entire demo for that game. I'll add a poll or anything if there's community response for that as I said. in the mean time you're banned.

[Makaveli]

as explained unfortunately I dont have a demo otherwise I would immediately post instead of commenting the video. Please ask the guy that has reported me.