MAKAVELI cheating

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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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Am not an expert at all, it doesn't look like an classic aimbot to me, although acc. over 50% for the whole game is quite a lot for Makaveli. But I don't know him well and i haven't met him in the game very often, maybe better net really helps, dunno.

What I would be more interested in is who reported him and uploaded the demo. None of the names of those in the team are somewhat known to me, according to the results, it doesn't look like they are someone good and well known in the community, just under a different name. It even surprises me that admin would go to the hard work of cutting a video, slowing down etc. based on someone's report and then immediately ban a player from a well known and respected clan. No offense to anyone, but something doesn't seem right there.
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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I have one question about that.
i checked his stats at that evening and it looks like he just a real good run this night. when it comes to stats at least.
yes they are really high for him and it looks really weird how his crosshair flicks to his enemy when he starts to lg. he did not much dmg overall, mostly like +2k netto.

i ask myself who reported this and how he checked it for first time? where is the whole demo?
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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kf wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 13:19 I have one question about that.
i checked his stats at that evening and it looks like he just a real good run this night. when it comes to stats at least.
yes they are really high for him and it looks really weird how his crosshair flicks to his enemy when he starts to lg. he did not much dmg overall, mostly like +2k netto.

i ask myself who reported this and how he checked it for first time? where is the whole demo?

Person who reported makes no difference, whole point of demo


@admin can you post normal demo aswell?

Even when I on very rare occasion came top I didn't get much accuracy as you don't need that
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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it makes no difference? i think if you report a player who only hits like +2k dmg netto just because of 3 situations where the lg goes wild at BEGINNING than you gotta smell something. theres nothing about his 73 percent rail stats. why not?
tell me something about this situation

whats happening there? when we just started to talk about cheating....
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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kf wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 13:31 it makes no difference? i think if you report a player who only hits like +2k dmg netto just because of 3 situations where the lg goes wild at BEGINNING than you gotta smell something. theres nothing about his 73 percent rail stats. why not?
tell me something about this situation

whats happening there? when we just started to talk about cheating....
So how does the person who does the report manipulate anything? I wouldn't know , hence original demo needed , why hide it

Unless it's an ILM player who did the report?
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what i especially meant is you guys all know maka since a long time and i also agree that it looks really suspicious, i guess if i would have been at server i wouldnt even check his pov at all, nothing at these small situations would have let me think (in normal speed) that he uses something. its just at beginning, i also see what adminless was saying that the "lock" changes etc. but that could also be superrandom lucky, where are more situations?
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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kf wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 14:04 what i especially meant is you guys all know maka since a long time and i also agree that it looks really suspicious, i guess if i would have been at server i wouldnt even check his pov at all, nothing at these small situations would have let me think (in normal speed) that he uses something. its just at beginning, i also see what adminless was saying that the "lock" changes etc. but that could also be superrandom lucky, where are more situations?
Yeah more or less agree with you

@Maka if your cheating or not I don't know , knowing anyone here makes no difference even they were example in ez, being famous Ami? Using a bot we wouldn't back him just due to a name


However as above more evidence and original demo required , must be reason also why reporter is hidden

ACC
Following through a wall it seems in slow speed


I wonder how many other players fall into this

Locking bit I don't get it
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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I don't have any more info (meaning demos) beside what has been posted but as people have inferred already the people who submitted that is definitively no random guy which leads me to believe that there's probably a lot more to it specially considering someone like maka is not gonna be a target for this kind of stuff. otherwise as people have put it I don't go those lengths for a random report. well, 66.7% lg is quite a lot specially for him (where his best games are in the 20-30 range instead) as commented and particularly considering he was hitting frozen bodies and team mates, that probably makes it really more into the 90% range I'd say.
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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What about the video that KF posted (he should also post the original demo, as the quality is really terrible)? To me, that seems much more suspicious or noticeable than these two situations for which Maka is being exposed as a cheater. Additionally, I find Maka’s analysis quite compelling in debunking the accusations. Why aren’t you addressing that, Adminless? It should also be very obvious that the demo was reported by WhoAmI. Since this is a pretty serious matter involving a well-known community member (and not just a teammate), he should post the entire video before we start blocking people and labeling them as cheaters.
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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I would be more interested in the 72% rail accuracy at 3900dmg. Not many people on the server can shoot with such accuracy (you can only list a few people) Which doesn't mean that he wouldn't be able to do it, but it would be better to see what is happening there. LG is strange, really, but it has a total of 840 dmg. it could still be luck...
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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@ami magi blood drinker you did report?
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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I don't think it's an aim hack, I think it has to do with his network + packets loss + Unlagged server mode.
I notice that he also "locks" in the middle air or on a teammate.
visually it looks dubious, but it didn't convince me.

maka, could you upload the last 3 demos you recorded? :wave:
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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PUFF wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 16:25 I don't think it's an aim hack, I think it has to do with his network + packets loss + Unlagged server mode.
I notice that he also "locks" in the middle air or on a teammate.
visually it looks dubious, but it didn't convince me.

maka, could you upload the last 3 demos you recorded? :wave:
Could be black cat involved 🐈‍⬛
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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PacMan wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 16:28
PUFF wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 16:25 I don't think it's an aim hack, I think it has to do with his network + packets loss + Unlagged server mode.
I notice that he also "locks" in the middle air or on a teammate.
visually it looks dubious, but it didn't convince me.

maka, could you upload the last 3 demos you recorded? :wave:
Could be black cat involved 🐈‍⬛
or that adminless put something in the server :crazy: :mrgreen:
tomorrow is Saint Andrew and in our popular culture it is said that on this night the spirits of the dead come out to fight with the "living undead". nasty 👻
The most famous St. Andrew tradition is related to garlic.
"On the night of Saint Andrew, garlic is eaten and people rub themselves with it, on their shoulders or chests, with garlic they also rub house doors, window sills, hinges and even cows' udders, so that the undead, who gather then, do not have no power, neither over man, nor over his house, nor over his cattle."
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Re: MAKAVELI cheating

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PUFF wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 17:17
PacMan wrote: Fri Nov 29, 2024 16:28

Could be black cat involved 🐈‍⬛
or that adminless put something in the server :crazy: :mrgreen:
tomorrow is Saint Andrew and in our popular culture it is said that on this night the spirits of the dead come out to fight with the "living undead". nasty 👻
The most famous St. Andrew tradition is related to garlic.
"On the night of Saint Andrew, garlic is eaten and people rub themselves with it, on their shoulders or chests, with garlic they also rub house doors, window sills, hinges and even cows' udders, so that the undead, who gather then, do not have no power, neither over man, nor over his house, nor over his cattle."
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Will they do the thriller Micheal Jackson thing aswell?