Unclean files and unallowed files

[nickaero]

Today there was some drama stirred up in the community over alleged use of prohibited features found in the OSP2-BE mod from members of ASS clan in the recent tournament. Miroslav and kf said that adminless told them all ASS players used unclean files in the tournament, and other teams did not, so I would like to ask adminless publicly for some clarification on this issue.
[Speaking directly to adminless]
Exactly what information can you extract as server admin from what type of files a player is using?
Which players in the tournament have been flagged as using impure paks/files?
What exactly counts as unclean file?
[Speaking to everyone]
What should we do in future editions of Anfriz League regarding this issue

[^Walnut*]

I would also like to ask a further question about this of my own, but maybe other ppl are wondering too. If you run the game with quake3e instead of your io quake version (client) on the forum, does something like that already trigger the "unclean client detected" message? I know for sure that probably a lot of ppl are playing with quake3e or xq3e.

[nickaero]

I think unclean files only relates to pak files, in other words, shit in your baseq3 folder. Could be wrong tho, waiting for adminless msg

[adminless]

yes, miro asked me the other day about it and I just sent the guy the list of players that logged with a verified clean install during the tournament which is as follows:

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Asuna[OFP]
blrskJ[OFP]
KOVSKY[OFP]
Odin[OFP]
*DT*Edversion
*DT*FraG_MasiN?
*DT*Miroslav
[ILM]Ambivalence
[ILM]ironmonkey
[ILM]Mike_uk
[ILM]Sarasti
[ILM]vrtx
*TTO*deimos_by*
*TTO*mwhq3*
*TTO*seresta*
*TTO*WhoAmI?!*

which means that actually now that you bring it your team actually won the cleanest team award of the tournament and I'll add it to your record, congrats. what the rest of the people not on that list is using, I don't know. there could indeed be cheats/custom hacked builds or could just be pointless custom models/weapon effects, map packs etc you just don't know so not having clean status doesn't directly confirm cheating, let's make that clear. yes, not a single player from ass got clean status during the tournament not even once by mistake/testing or something which quite frankly it's indeed a bad look but to be fair like the majority of the participants (i.e. 62.5%). I also forwarded the guy (miro) to ricky stream channel where he is shown indeed cheating at the pubs all along this year, like several other people did until it got reported btw, but it also shows how he switched to the provided UnFreeZe package just with minor visual customizations after such cheats got disabled/banned and I assume that was about the whole situation with ass. that's all I know. for the future, yes, since there seems to have been some controversy I think that for another edition such unclean/unverified clients can simply be blocked and people will finally have to come clean and submit their installments for verification which actually was the initial intention with that feature until it proved unrealistic as you can see.

[^Walnut*]

yes, miro asked me the other day about it and I just sent the guy the list of players that logged with a verified clean install during the tournament which is as follows:

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Asuna[OFP]
blrskJ[OFP]
KOVSKY[OFP]
Odin[OFP]
*DT*Edversion
*DT*FraG_MasiN?
*DT*Miroslav
[ILM]Ambivalence
[ILM]ironmonkey
[ILM]Mike_uk
[ILM]Sarasti
[ILM]vrtx
*TTO*deimos_by*
*TTO*mwhq3*
*TTO*seresta*
*TTO*WhoAmI?!*

which means that actually now that you bring it your team actually won the cleanest team award of the tournament and I'll add it to your record, congrats. what the rest of the people not on that list is using, I don't know. there could indeed be cheats/custom hacked builds or could just be pointless custom models/weapon effects, map packs etc you just don't know so not having clean status doesn't directly confirm cheating, let's make that clear. yes, not a single player from ass got clean status during the tournament not even once by mistake/testing or something which quite frankly it's indeed a bad look but to be fair like the majority of the participants (i.e. 62.5%). I also forwarded the guy (miro) to ricky stream channel where he is shown indeed cheating at the pubs all along this year, like several other people did until it got reported btw, but it also shows how he switched to the provided UnFreeZe package just with minor visual customizations after such cheats got disabled/banned and I assume that was about the whole situation with ass. that's all I know. for the future, yes, since there seems to have been some controversy I think that for another edition such unclean/unverified clients can simply be blocked and people will finally have to come clean and submit their installments for verification which actually was the initial intention with that feature until it proved unrealistic as you can see.

What about the question I asked above, does that matter in any way if you run q3e or xq3?

[adminless]

ah yes sorry, no, the engine/executable should not affect the clean status unless it's a hacked build obviously.

[^Walnut*]

ah yes sorry, no, the engine/executable should not affect the clean status unless it's a hacked build obviously.

I have certain pk3 files in my unfreeze folder that are addons and I mostly got from moddb. I'm playing with your unfreeze community edition on quake3e. Miro told me I can share the files with you and then you can check if they are approved for this server. How does that work, do I just need to sent you all my pk3 files that show up when I type /fs_referencedList in console?

[adminless]

yes, you send me those files on mail, I check them and then add them to the database. yeah, I know, your game/situation would probably have been very similar as how it looked in the ricky streams.

[^Walnut*]

yes, you send me those files on mail, I check them and then add them to the database. yeah, I know, your game/situation would probably have been very similar as how it looked in the ricky streams.

Ok sure, I will do that then when I'm at my pc again probably somewhere this weekend

[fernandinho1337]

Is it possible to make approved pk3s available to the whole community?

[adminless]

of course I think it was well know that unless I missed something I upload everything I add to the servers here so everyone can get them. as you can see there's quite a fair amount of stuff already added, it's not just the provided packages.