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Re: Fakers/ Cheaters

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i looked at the demos.

i found out those things:

1 if you call yourself WH_WITH_AIM: if thats not a provocation then i dont know what else
2 it is weird he changes his nicks so much
3 movement aim etc look to me very average
4 dm7 @ 4:20-4.30 when he respawns at red armor: you can tell his plasma locks in and thats cheat to me especially when you look at his movement and overall aim. he is not using mouse accel at all so that behaviour in this situation is not explainable...so only because of that situation i d say he has cheats installed (aimbot).

good call!

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fernandinho1337 wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 22:25 4 dm7 @ 4:20-4.30 when he respawns at red armor: you can tell his plasma locks in and thats cheat to me especially when you look at his movement and overall aim. he is not using mouse accel at all so that behaviour in this situation is not explainable...so only because of that situation i d say he has cheats installed (aimbot).
Here the question is: Why does he use the aimbot for an easy target?. Even I would have hit the target. :)

I have seen a couple of situations not as clear, but similar.
1) dm7 @ 4:03:37. Pointer changes to a constant speed, lock objetive and stop.
2) dm7 @ 5:02:87 - 5:02:90 . He is in the air. For 30 milliseconds, the pointer suddenly changes speed, reaches the target, stops and fires.

Maybe it's my imagination, and that's coincidence. I'm not 100% sure.
Knowing the statistics of his nicks separately, could help. Especially the precision for each weapon.

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onlycape wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 13:49 Here the question is: Why does he use the aimbot for an easy target?. Even I would have hit the target. :)
If you look at this overall movement and aim, there are not many easy targets for him ;-) To me it seems like he has some type of scripts or bindings and he accidently uses bot in this situation.
onlycape wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2017 13:49 I have seen a couple of situations not as clear, but similar.
1) dm7 @ 4:03:37. Pointer changes to a constant speed, lock objetive and stop.
2) dm7 @ 5:02:87 - 5:02:90 . He is in the air. For 30 milliseconds, the pointer suddenly changes speed, reaches the target, stops and fires.
He moves and aims overall very sloppy, I did not notice these situations, he is definitely not the most obvious cheater.

Mostly, it is the background story that points to cheating: especially when someone tells me they have spectated me with wallhack activated and can tell I am cheating I get suspicious...btw I will upload a game I recorded off my monitor on youtube or so, so people can see my config and stuff and that I am not cheating :-D
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I think that you're missing the whole point here, I'm talking from memory here so excuse me if something isn't that precise, but I remember watching that live and to me it just looked like he has aim for the rockets which is a "low risk" cheat on most of the time and that shot you're talking about is just what happens when you have aim active for a low risk weapon and in the middle you "wrecklessly" changes weapon, it becomes plain obvious, but is more than that on first demo there's a moment when he covers up behind a door against spammers in dm14 where he could barely see and missed most then suddenly overpowers them like a robot and also even last frag of the second demo where he just goes randomly running and kills a falling newb.zi all of the sudden without barely aim are very noticeable, those are a bit of the most relevant moments I have in my memory but sure there's many others. as for the stats like I said he's purposely emptying weapons and randomly spamming all over the place to mask his stats as well as brainlessly changing his fake nicks like every 2 mins (after I disconnected to make the report etc he still continued that way for at least another half hour and most likely would have go more not I handled the issue) to try to make it harder to be tracked so long story short like dirk is saying and I always say summing up everything I think that it's not only clear that he's cheating that he is even making a conscious effort to try to hide it which makes this case specially severe and to be honest after witnessed all this I'm also almost completely sure that even before he cheated at some point or another, I remember when introduced the pak checks code he was, if not the only, at least the most notable case where "sometimes" he had clean status, other times he doesn't (note that a "unclean" status doesn't necessarily translate to cheating, it just mean that you're using unknown/unverified files that yes could be cheats of course but could just simply be a fancy hud/map textures/weapons etc), this is extraordinary strange, people usually either have clean status or doesn't but don't usually change between them (I mean under normal circunstances from day to day, sure, after some time people using random weird files fix them with the files from here and then move to clean status or people using files from here add other custom fancy files and move to unclean status etc but not in a daily/game basis as this guy and the day of the recordings wasn't a exception to this either).
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Re: Fakers/ Cheaters

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even last frag of the second demo where he just goes randomly running and kills a falling newb.zi all of the sudden without barely aim are very noticeable
Mh, u mean after 17:35? Could be luck as he walks towards this spot and already aims near where I have fallen.

What me bothers the most is the completely strange movement and aiming behaviour overall. Either he is left-handed or drunk or whatever but mostly his movements make no sense to me. Perhaps he is wallhacking galore and therefore moving so strangely, but I cannot say for sure. For the aiming part it switches between totally random and botlike. I think the situation on the first map behind the door to the RA camping circle area is stranger (rail locking) as the one in the second map (plasma locking). Whatever, the overall behaviour is really weird.
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yes that one I meant, sure it could but anyways that "perfectly" and "fast" (relatively) if you know what i mean, hard to believe after all this and furthermore seeing that I think that if I don't remember wrong after that he just randomly rocket jumps out of there and powders the reaming enemies like nothing. as for the rest I see that we coincide in almost everything (yes that was the same moment in the first demo I was referring in my previous post).
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Hi
On the topic of name fakers, some high ping polish guy has been using sis (blank and red) and ranting all evening. Yes I have many friends! I am fine with that, but my stats are now messed up. If I want clean results, do I have to change names again or is there also some time window after which results are dropped?
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Re: Fakers/ Cheaters

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YS i have a serrver password for my nick so it is impossible to call yourseld „reDIRKulous“ if you dont have my password. maybe adminless
can do the same for u

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The statistics server uses a 10-day cycle. If I am not wrong in 10 days, the statistics of the 25 day should be deleted.
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ok, 10 days is not too bad. Thank you for your responses, I can sit it out. At the moment it seems like one-of so no password needed yet. This time it was easy to see it was not me, by the polish (instead of english) ranting, much higher ping and much more noob :-)
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Re: Fakers/ Cheaters

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sis i dont get it. password can protect ur nick bit you need adminless to set it up
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hey hello all

yes, I also noticed that last days, crazy guy, he also faked more players not just sis and yes that's right, 10 days is the cycle of the stats, this is, games older than 10 days doesn't compute for the current stats. ok, let me know if you want to register some nick just know that the "sis" nick cannot be registered (sure it can but is just too short and generic for it to make sense to fully own it, there's actually some short of basic squatting protection and so registered nicks should be relatively significant and 5, 6 characters long more or less), the your sister (whatever variation you want) one is fine to be registered thought.

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Hi there,

I will take that advise as this guys is persistant. I like to register "your sister". Is that one string or two strings? Like can I change color in between? Thank you in advance.

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you can change colors. but „your sister2“ and such are not protected. only that very string is protected. as u can see when i play i sometimes changed colors (only) and that was peotected. so when u see „redirkulous“ u know its me
or someone with my password ^^
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well actually they are dirk, that's why registered nicks has to be minimally significative because if not that would for example wipe away stuff like "big sis", "lil sis" etc etc which I believe them to be legit, "your sister" in the other hand is fine.

I know, I've been taking a look and it seems that he also legibly used some sort of "sis" nick variation (signsis) and it looks like he liked to "sort it out" hehe anyways, I've just pm'ed you here the instructions for your nick, test it out, if you need further assistance write me a mail you can not answer me there.

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