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ok, so just as commented before this night noobzordofzords advanced on his masters debut past UnFreeZe duels champion Mike to get a spot among the best four players of the tournament and will be scheduled to meet undefeated/undisputed champion Miroslav on the first semifinal of the tournament. when it comes about the fight overall the whole night kept a recurring theme Mike put the pressure and the aggression while noobzordofzords set the timing and the strategy of the fight and that was enough to secure him a remarkable victory on this round. for the most part, probably with the exception of hub3aeroq3 that was a clear win for noobzordofzords, the whole fight was fairly balanced so ultimately noobzordofzords superior item timing/control was enough to beat 1:3 a Mike that for other than sporadic streaks never really found a solid rhythm that allowed him to develop his offensive skill. in that context noobzordofzords managed to secure three very balanced games in a row that granted him the win despite facing some serious challenges from Mike this night as well as several back and forth moments. overall a great fight to rewatch worth of a quarterfinal and big shout out to many of the critics of the tournament setup that shows off how despite the latency a 40 msec guy topped a (almost) half ping guy and the rail accuracy stats so far on a balanced quarterfinal.

now let's talk business, without further redo here are the fights and initial schedules for the next week fights:

The Finals
  • Semi-Finals
    1. Miroslav vs noobzordofzords (Tuesday 3 of May of 2022 21:15 CEST [UTC+02])
    2. fau vs sn1 (Sunday 1 of May of 2022 21:15 CEST [UTC+02])
undercards
  • potential undercard fight (Thursday 5 of May of 2022 21:15 CEST [UTC+02])
    • new challenger vs new challenger
the second semifinal is already set so when miro and noob can/know please let me know whether the current suggested date work for you or if not what would within the next week. miro stated early May 4-7 can be problematic for him then if the Tuesday night doesn't work other possible dates could be the Monday 2 or the Sunday 8 nights. since it seems like the fifth place between kf and mike isn't going to be disputed either then I decided the position by the score cards which in this case with 3:1 loses on both cases it goes in favor of Mike because of the overall better map performance as kf resigned on one map. just let me know in case you changed your mind for the next Thursday 5 of May night and wanna dispute the fifth place in-game instead. shall not be the case then as usual if somebody is interested in playing some off-tournament undercard fight feel free to sign up here.

ok and that's it for now I guess, ggs and catch you on the next round.
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@RH "These shouldn't be played in 1v1 at all" thank you for the input but we don't need your "approval" to decide what we should play or not. we will play whatever we feel like it.

"q3tourney3 (beginners) -> played version is the better balanced pro-q3tourney3" pro-q3tourney3?! mmmm got a original author link, a valid legit original use license for it as well as solid background of the map being extensively used across top popular public servers (i.e. at least hundred of players per day) over the last decades on a daily basis? excuse me but just as I told miro I don't feel like loading this with forty different very specific versions of maps that outside of very specific limited groups of people have ever been played.

"pro-q3dm13 (lostworld) -> played version is nodm9" pro-nodm9 is already on the map pool.

also for the record cpm15 is just a repack of ffdm2 that plays just fine on vq3 as well as cpm24 probably which btw is also another very old school map. yes, cpm1a and cpm3a are probably more oriented towards cpma but so what? just as I wrote before, not everything here has to be the pinnacle of everything and/or oriented toward elitist groups/people, specially to those that don't even dare to participate or really bring anything else. get that out of your head that's not the point of this.
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The map pool is fine. The more serious players choose the common maps anyways and the beginners increase the chances for an upset or atleast a more exciting game by picking these maps. The better players can compensate the lack of knowledge with aim movement and timing anyways. See what fau did on cpm24 to magi ;) didnt work to choose such a map.

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im available to playon may 3rd
@noobz what about you?
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3rd is ok for me
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hi guys, i pick hub3t1 and pukka3t2! best regards, toni
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sounds good, thanks for the update guys. noted for the Tuesday then and just waiting to hear picks from noob as well to send fight PM.
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ok, finally received now noobzordofzords picks for the first semifinal, ztn3tourney1 and hub3aeroq3 (just same as on previous round), and PM for that sent as well to both now. this means that along with this night highly anticipated duel between fau and sn1 we are all set for the deciding round of the tournament that will chose what two players will make it into the grand final. as usual, fight hard, fight clean, have fun and good luck to everybody involved.

additionally beside that it would be good as well that the losers of this round would start to consider if they want to sign up for a third place final. I think that with no undercards that happened on the previous round which was a bit of a disappointment a third place final would be very interesting to dispute, particularly considering the top skill and overall balance of most players at this point, instead of having the score cards decide the position. so think about that as well and let me know later on once the round gets done and there's a matchup of course not now.
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ok, the second semifinal of the tournament is done with a sound fau victory that becomes the first finalist of the tournament and just at the wait of the outcome of the other semifinal retains its title of fpsclassico champion as have not lost to anybody else besides miro who is just undisputed. the general tone of the fight was very serious with a very challenge fight for both participants where both of them had real options to end up on top of the other. in that sense the final 3:0 outcome surprises a bit but probably the master ztn3tourney1 fau performance that wasn't decided till the last second had a impact on sn1 fighting spirit that reflected on the last and decisive game. when in comes to the statistical analysis of the games stands out the fact that the winner had a combined negative damage efficiency (48.81%) meaning it played a lot better its cards and thus converted score at a damage given cost of 303.5 instead of 445.6 (i.e. a profound +46.82% difference there). the key stat lies particularly once again on the items, with fau collecting 6680:4970 (armor:health) against sn1 4715:3585 overall, again another solid +41.68%:+38.63% difference there very difficult to overcome at this level of skill. nevertheless a big shout out to sn1 for pulling a very remarkable tournament on his first fpsclassico masters appearance and of course looking forward to have in to fight once again this time for the third place against the loser of the other semifinal then please let me know if you interested by the next days.

for the rest videos being produced now, this time although not being a final still a tittle fight, I'll produce them with the wallhack render just in case somebody wanna review/appeal the result. since I just can't control/assure YouTube working and as probably even the inside version is more interesting I finally decided to invert the order and I'll produce first the inside ones and then later on the YouTube ones. basically I'll open the typical thread for it after this and I'll put the links though they won't work yet until the server gets them done (typically around each two hours approx). after that (which in the case of the five that I was expecting was tomorrow morning) I'll produce/upload the usual YouTube ones that will get done when YouTube feel like it (with three they'll be on YouTube end by tomorrow morning probably) then stay tune. ok, catch you the Tuesday then on the other semifinal that will decide the grand final matchup that will crown no other than the fpsclassico 2022 masters champion on a epic best of seven fight that promises to be the ultimate showdown.
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ok guys the semis are finally done, as expected Miroslav took his chances this night to get a spot on the grand final against top contender fau, no surprises, arguably the two best players will meet again on a already classic super final. about this night fight probably not much to comment as despite noobzordofzords best efforts he was mostly outplayed by a terrific Miroslav that definitively looked in shape to retain his undisputed tittle at least so far. I think that probably the only thing to comment was the third map order change that although a clear violation of the approved procedure and something that shouldn't be allowed in light of the major difference and in favor of just a more friendly and enjoyable experience I exceptionally allowed it since it looked almost certain that it wasn't going to change anything anyways. my feelings are that probably picking hub3aeroq3 against a super specialist on such map (traditionally miro home maps are unquestionable, "the hubs") was a terrible blunder that hopefully he realized it almost in time to react. as said it shouldn't happen but I guess that probably loading aero to record another clean game wouldn't probably add anything positive to the game. although still a very clear win for miro pukka at least brought four very hard earned and deserved frags for noobzordofzords to end the night on a very respectful note so big shout out to him for honoring the competition in full and giving your best. people shouldn't forget that to lose hard a semifinal first you need to reach it and that to be able reach it first you need to sign up as well. people improve by facing stronger opponents not by "winning easy" and shying away from challenges, in the long run the former ones are the ones that will prevail, so huge respect.

good, then I guess it's time to move to the closing week of the tournament, without further redo here are the macthups:

The Finals
  • Grand Final
    • Miroslav vs fau (Wednesday 11 of May of 2022 21:00 CEST [UTC+02])
undercards
  1. third place final (Tuesday 10 of May of 2022 21:15 CEST [UTC+02])
    • sn1 vs noobzordofzords
as said both sn1 and noobzordofzords are invited and strongly encouraged to dispute the third place of the tournament as well as the tittle of the best fpsclassico master newcomer of 2022 on a third place final. of course, as with previous undercards is not mandatory so please let me know within the next days if you're interested in making it happen. I initially scheduled it for the next Tuesday night 21:15 (normal best of five) although as usual any other date within that week (that doesn't coincide with the final obviously) can be done. in case it doesn't happen the third place will go for sn1 as both lost 3:0 but sn1 did so at a higher score ratio of 1:1.4 against noobzordofzords ratio of 1:18.75. although it's also to note that probably in this case the most fair should be a direct fight and decide that in-game so think about it.

now let's move to the good stuff, the grand final that will decide who is the champion of fpsclassico masters 2022 as well as if miro come out still undefeated and hence undisputed here or if fau will become new lineal champion instead (as he hasn't lost to anybody else he will retain the regular champion tittle anyways). first things first as mentioned earlier I think the most appropriate and exciting for the final is to dispute it a best of seven played on b-a-a-b-b-a-c order instead, I assume you both agree to that. as said as I only announced five tie-breakers I announce now the tie-breaks pool for the final (in order) since the third place final is not guaranteed to happen or it could even not happen in order. basically this is the current output of the database tie-breakers function for the masters server:

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+-------+----------------+---------------------+
| times | map            | last                |
+-------+----------------+---------------------+
|    15 | pro-q3dm6      | 2022-04-27 21:17:03 |
|    14 | ztn3tourney1   | 2022-05-03 21:24:44 |
|    14 | hub3aeroq3     | 2022-05-01 21:39:26 |
|    13 | hub3tourney1   | 2022-05-03 21:14:07 |
|    13 | pro-q3tourney4 | 2022-04-27 21:51:08 |
|    12 | pukka3tourney2 | 2022-05-03 21:37:14 |
|     7 | hektik_b3      | 2022-04-24 21:47:09 |
|     6 | pro-q3tourney2 | 2021-04-11 18:13:08 |
|     4 | pro-q3tourney7 | 2021-06-21 22:10:35 |
|     3 | phantq3dm1_rev | 2022-04-21 22:06:28 |
|     3 | q3tourney3     | 2022-04-21 21:44:54 |
|     2 | pro-q3dm13     | 2021-01-03 18:20:37 |
|     2 | q3dm5          | 2021-01-03 18:09:25 |
|     1 | cpm24          | 2022-04-20 21:27:30 |
|     1 | q3tourney2     | 2021-06-21 21:58:53 |
|     1 | q3dm13         | 2021-04-11 18:00:37 |
|     1 | qxtourney1     | 2021-01-03 18:43:17 |
|     1 | bloodcovenant  | 2019-08-11 19:16:49 |
+-------+----------------+---------------------+
basically as can be seen there then the tie-breakers for the final are pro-q3dm6, ztn3tourney1, hub3aeroq3, hub3tourney1, pro-q3tourney4, pukka3tourney2 and hektik_b3. no surprises I guess that is probably about what everyone expected. additionally as there seems to be some controversy with the connectivity/latency and so I also announce now that in favor of a more fair game and to avoid any disagreements and that the champion really gets recognized as such, the better player, not just some random lucky guy who's only skill happened to be at the right spot to be given away a rigged tournament, the grand final will be disputed with connectivity latency compensation. since osp is not a unlagged mod and as obviously I can't reduce (by normal means) the latency of a external connection I have no ways to negatively compensate for latency (i.e. delag) here besides also as stated unlagged mods change behavior beyond just the latency so that's probably not even what we might want (arguably). that being said what I can sure do because it takes place right at the server is to introduce latency to compensate the difference between the two players so for the grand final the latency of the lower pinger will be adjusted to that of the higher pinger. in this case, the values I have measured so far are 16.63 msec and 28.28 msec of average latency for miro and fau respectively which basically means that I'll just introduce 11.65 msec of artificial flat lag (i.e. delay) to the miro connection at the date of the fight. in any case rest assured that the in-game ping values will be verified to match at the start of the match anyways despite any previous calculations in a effort that both compete on equal foot. failure to follow the procedure and/or disagreeing with it on miro's end will ends the undisputed status and will automatically make fau lineal.

and that should be it I guess, so think your picks wisely as they can be decisive and all that is left is just the date. initially I had schedule it for the 15 as usual just to be safe in case there's delays as well as expecting various undercards and so but as it hasn't been the case and we're even beyond schedule I think that probably right the next Wednesday night can be a good date, just let me know. finally the time was adjusted for 21:00 CEST (UTC+02) to better accommodate the best of seven play which could take some longer.
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hey adminless

nice idea about evening out the pings - in the past when playing internationally you always picked the server with the fairest ping in average for team games (like tdm). this does not work here since we only have one server to choose from.

just want to point out that for a month I have now better ping and I am not used anymore to the higher ping and i have no experiences how this artificial lag will impact and as i mentioned i have private stuff coming up that will not allow me to play the next couple days. is there a way i can test the compensated input to get a feel what it will do exactly and what it will do to me? can you permanently (till the fight is over) just up/increase my artificial lag on masters, so i am warmed up when the fight happens?

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sure just connect to the de route via IPv6 and that should give you fau ping provided he connects to the eu route via IPv4 as well (that's it \connect -6 fpsclasico.de:27966 for you and \connect -4 fpsclasico.eu:27966 for him), that's it around 28.28 msecs of average in-game ping. ok, I'll leave that interface permanently lagged until the date of the match so you can try/prepare. the feeling should probably be just slightly better as before you upgraded your connection as that's flat lag (i.e. stable) but for the rest it should be pretty much the same since it's indeed real lag (i.e. network latency).
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how does the tie breaker work? will it be one of the top maps or the most popular map that has not been picked yet?

fau and i get to choose 3 maps each right? fau indicated he will play some random maps. when is the latest we have to announce? ^^

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yes the first of pro-q3dm6, ztn3tourney1, hub3aeroq3, hub3tourney1, pro-q3tourney4, pukka3tourney2 and hektik_b3 that hasn't been chosen considering map overlaps. yes you chose three each, the order is b-a-a-b-b-a-c. shall be the case the mix between statistical and human projection hint for best picks on this fight I see is hektik_b3, hub3tourney1, hub3aeroq3, cpm24, bloodcovenant, pukka3tourney2 and ztn3tourney1. that will obviously depend on when the fight will finally take place, considering the current Wednesday 11 of May of 2022 21:00 CEST (UTC+02) schedule remains you (miro/player A) will have until the Tuesday 10 of May of 2022 9:00 CEST (UTC+02) and fau (player B) until the Tuesday 10 of May of 2022 21:00 CEST (UTC+02). for other schedule the deadline is of 36 hours before for the player A and 24 for the player B although I believe that given there's like a week the most normal would probably be to leave it set by the weekend probably.
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so when i understand this right

- you will raise ping of one participant

- the other one has normal ping with which he always plays

and this is mentioned to be fair? LOL

and when he doesnt agree, fau wins by default? rofldiekatz

when has miro to play with mg only really?